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	<title>Comments on: Fiddler: Trying to work out how it all hooks together</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Needham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Needham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mat - I used yuml - http://yuml.me/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mat &#8211; I used yuml &#8211; <a href="http://yuml.me/" rel="nofollow">http://yuml.me/</a></p>
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		<title>By: mat roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,
What did you use to draw the pictures on this post...I like them a lot.
Cheers
Mat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,<br />
What did you use to draw the pictures on this post&#8230;I like them a lot.<br />
Cheers<br />
Mat</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, a lot of Windows applications will use what you call the &quot;system proxy&quot; settings. Safari and Chrome, but not Eclipse. The Cygwin installer has it as an option called &quot;Use IE5 settings&quot;.

One thing that mightn&#039;t be obvious (although it&#039;s probably not relevant here) is &quot;automatic proxy configuration&quot;. Proxy autoconfig (PAC) isn&#039;t just a hostname/port pair, it&#039;s actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a script&lt;/a&gt;. That means that any client that wants to use those settings needs a Javascript interpreter somewhere along the way.

There&#039;s also the Web Proxy Auto-Discovery protocol, which uses DNS to find a PAC script. (Theoretically it uses DHCP first but I don&#039;t think most implementations use that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, a lot of Windows applications will use what you call the &#8220;system proxy&#8221; settings. Safari and Chrome, but not Eclipse. The Cygwin installer has it as an option called &#8220;Use IE5 settings&#8221;.</p>
<p>One thing that mightn&#8217;t be obvious (although it&#8217;s probably not relevant here) is &#8220;automatic proxy configuration&#8221;. Proxy autoconfig (PAC) isn&#8217;t just a hostname/port pair, it&#8217;s actually <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config" rel="nofollow">a script</a>. That means that any client that wants to use those settings needs a Javascript interpreter somewhere along the way.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the Web Proxy Auto-Discovery protocol, which uses DNS to find a PAC script. (Theoretically it uses DHCP first but I don&#8217;t think most implementations use that.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find the reference just at the moment, but:

Whether WinINet proxy settings affect you depends on which low-level API is used to set up the socket that the http request will be made over. All of the high-level .net libraries end up using low-level calls that are affected by WinINet. 

I think the alternative API is only usable from direct win32 code, or maybe would require rewriting an http handling library in .net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find the reference just at the moment, but:</p>
<p>Whether WinINet proxy settings affect you depends on which low-level API is used to set up the socket that the http request will be made over. All of the high-level .net libraries end up using low-level calls that are affected by WinINet. </p>
<p>I think the alternative API is only usable from direct win32 code, or maybe would require rewriting an http handling library in .net.</p>
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