Comments on: TDD: Keeping assertions clear http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/ Thoughts on Software Development Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sai Venkat http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-24886 Sai Venkat Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:38:20 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=1716#comment-24886 Thats why they say expect literals in test :) Thats why they say expect literals in test :)

]]> By: Mark Needham http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-24113 Mark Needham Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:05:42 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=1716#comment-24113 @skim - oh ok got a bit confused! I haven't read it for a while - will check it out for the state verfication stuff though. Mostly read it just for the comparison the last time. @skim – oh ok got a bit confused! I haven’t read it for a while – will check it out for the state verfication stuff though. Mostly read it just for the comparison the last time.

]]> By: skim http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-24098 skim Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:12:07 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=1716#comment-24098 my second comment should have said that I read martin fowler's article, not for you to read it (past tense). thanks for the article. this is giving me a better understanding how to create assertions :) my second comment should have said that I read martin fowler’s article, not for you to read it (past tense).

thanks for the article. this is giving me a better understanding how to create assertions

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]]> By: Mark Needham http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-24049 Mark Needham Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:57:44 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=1716#comment-24049 @skim - In this case I wasn't referring specifically to mocks/stubs but certainly making the expectations more static in the sense that you can know exactly what they are just by looking at the test. @skim – In this case I wasn’t referring specifically to mocks/stubs but certainly making the expectations more static in the sense that you can know exactly what they are just by looking at the test.

]]> By: Reflective Perspective - Chris Alcock » The Morning Brew #452 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-24039 Reflective Perspective - Chris Alcock » The Morning Brew #452 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:42:34 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=1716#comment-24039 [...] TDD: Keeping assertions clear - Mark Needham talks about the importance of keeping assertions clear so if is obvious why a test is failing [...] [...] TDD: Keeping assertions clear – Mark Needham talks about the importance of keeping assertions clear so if is obvious why a test is failing [...]

]]> By: skim http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-24031 skim Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:31:43 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=1716#comment-24031 this wouldn't necessarily be replacing real methods with stubs, but rather using static data for state verification (read martin fowler's mocks aren't stubs post). this wouldn’t necessarily be replacing real methods with stubs, but rather using static data for state verification (read martin fowler’s mocks aren’t stubs post).

]]> By: skim http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2009/10/10/tdd-keeping-assertions-clear/comment-page-1/#comment-24030 skim Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:25:59 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=1716#comment-24030 in short, are you trying to be less dependent on the methods that provide expected values and replace them with static data? in short, are you trying to be less dependent on the methods that provide expected values and replace them with static data?

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