Comments on: The Limited Red Society – Joshua Kerievsky http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/ Thoughts on Software Development Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ruby: Accessing fields at Mark Needham http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/comment-page-1/#comment-45648 Ruby: Accessing fields at Mark Needham Sun, 22 Aug 2010 18:26:53 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=2626#comment-45648 [...] of direct field references which will make it easier to change the underlying implementation. Kerievsky's narrowed change refactoring suddenly becomes less [...] [...] of direct field references which will make it easier to change the underlying implementation. Kerievsky's narrowed change refactoring suddenly becomes less [...]

]]> By: Mark Needham http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/comment-page-1/#comment-43978 Mark Needham Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:16:25 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=2626#comment-43978 Good idea - have installed the sociable plugin now! Good idea – have installed the sociable plugin now!

]]> By: Bob Marshall http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/comment-page-1/#comment-43976 Bob Marshall Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:58:16 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=2626#comment-43976 Nice post- shame there's no retweet button :} - Bob Nice post- shame there’s no retweet button :}

- Bob

]]> By: Coding: Tools/Techniques influence the way we work at Mark Needham http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/comment-page-1/#comment-43804 Coding: Tools/Techniques influence the way we work at Mark Needham Sat, 07 Aug 2010 13:14:43 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=2626#comment-43804 [...] Incremental refactoring is a concept that Dave Cameron introduced me to about a year ago and it's been talked about recently by Kent Beck and Joshua Kerievsky. [...] [...] Incremental refactoring is a concept that Dave Cameron introduced me to about a year ago and it's been talked about recently by Kent Beck and Joshua Kerievsky. [...]

]]> By: The value of naming things at Mark Needham http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/comment-page-1/#comment-43002 The value of naming things at Mark Needham Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:06:32 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=2626#comment-43002 [...] example Joshua Kerievsky has come up with some names to describe incremental refactoring techniques such as parallel change and narrowed [...] [...] example Joshua Kerievsky has come up with some names to describe incremental refactoring techniques such as parallel change and narrowed [...]

]]> By: Mark Needham http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/comment-page-1/#comment-40774 Mark Needham Wed, 07 Jul 2010 07:09:40 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=2626#comment-40774 @Claudio - hmmm that's true actually, hadn't considered it that way. Although I would say it's information hiding within a class i.e. we're hiding the storage mechanism to all other methods inside our class. I don't usually do that but maybe I should! I think that Mikado would be useful for seeing whether we need to narrow the change in the first place and if there aren't many places to change then perhaps we can just go ahead and make the change straight away. @Claudio – hmmm that’s true actually, hadn’t considered it that way. Although I would say it’s information hiding within a class i.e. we’re hiding the storage mechanism to all other methods inside our class.

I don’t usually do that but maybe I should!

I think that Mikado would be useful for seeing whether we need to narrow the change in the first place and if there aren’t many places to change then perhaps we can just go ahead and make the change straight away.

]]> By: Claudio Oliva de Lyra http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/2010/07/05/the-limited-red-society-joshua-kerievsky/comment-page-1/#comment-40700 Claudio Oliva de Lyra Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:05:13 +0000 http://www.markhneedham.com/blog/?p=2626#comment-40700 First, congratulations for the always very interesting posts. Regarding the narrowed change approach that is mentioned above, I got the impression that we are talking of nothing more than the good old OO encapsulation. If so, for the sake of enforcing limited redness, the choices actually are between the big leap (of faith) versus the more controlled "localized deltas". In either case I think that the difficult bit resides in the anticipation of the unavoidable ripples - and in knowing where the ripples will be triggered. What made me think of a another use for the Mihado-ish visualization methods. Regards First, congratulations for the always very interesting posts.
Regarding the narrowed change approach that is mentioned above, I got the impression that we are talking of nothing more than the good old OO encapsulation. If so, for the sake of enforcing limited redness, the choices actually are between the big leap (of faith) versus the more controlled “localized deltas”.
In either case I think that the difficult bit resides in the anticipation of the unavoidable ripples – and in knowing where the ripples will be triggered. What made me think of a another use for the Mihado-ish visualization methods.
Regards

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